ERSA Hotflow5

ERSA Hotflow5			gpaelmo	09/25/04
ERSA Hotflow5			Grayman	09/27/04
ERSA Hotflow5			marc	09/27/04
ERSA Hotflow5			Peter J. Lensch	10/05/04
	ERSA Hotflow5		Grayman	10/05/04
		ERSA Hotflow5	Fastek	10/05/04

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Date: September 25, 2004 10:36 AM
Author: gpaelmo  
Subject: ERSA Hotflow5

Hi,

Anyone using this in production? Our company is looking into this model (used). Board size up to to 8"x10", max layer=12,
single and double side SMT, medium density mostly passives, max QFP/BGA on board=7-10, 1,000-3,000 boards/wk.

Can anyone direct me where I can get specs (ERSA website does not have it). Is this 5-heat zone (5-top,5-bot) oven? Is there a cooling zone?

Any info esp. specs would be appreciated. No sales pitch please just the specs.

Thanks in Advance

Gary

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Date: September 27, 2004 10:35 AM
Author: Grayman  
Subject: ERSA Hotflow5


ersa is one of the best machine in the industry now. However, price and after sales service is no good. I suggest you buy a low cost China made reflow oven. I know China made reflow oven cost at $20k for a 5 zones lead free

Arman

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Date: September 27, 2004 10:49 AM
Author: marc
Subject: ERSA Hotflow5


Gary

Getting the specs for a used machine will be tough from Ersa but at least send them a note, the seller should also be able to get the info for you.

In regards a 5 zone system. I would suggest at least 7+ zones if your moving to lead free. A 5 zone will do it but it does become difficult to fine tune the profile at times. Also consider N2, this does help for the spreading of lead free material.

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Date: October 05, 2004 06:41 AM
Author: Peter J. Lensch  
Subject: ERSA Hotflow5


Hi Gary,

send me your email adress, and I send you all the specs you want....I am from ERSA in Germany....you won't have a sales pitch at all.
You can also contact egrice@ersainc.com for the info and a pitchless repsonse. We are not as unresponsive as we are made out to be.....

Peter

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Date: October 05, 2004 05:31 PM
Author: Grayman  
Subject: ERSA Hotflow5


Peter,

As I mention your machine is one of the best machine in the industry however, your service is really not ok. This is a constructive criticism that needs your improvement.


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Date: October 05, 2004 10:36 PM
Author: Fastek  
Subject: ERSA Hotflow5


Who can blame anyone for having lousy service in China when there's twenty companies selling cheap throw away ovens for $20K new. What's surprising is why would BTU, Ersa, Vitronics and Heller even try to sell over there anymore.

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