Electronics Forum | Wed Dec 15 00:18:01 EST 2004 | vinitverma
Hi Serge, If you are really looking at a new machine, why not try Assembleon AX-3 configured for 45K cph (rated speed, 30K IPC9850 speed). This machine can be future upgraded upto 90K cph (rated speed, 60Kcph IPC 9850 speed). You get placement force
Electronics Forum | Wed Dec 15 11:24:10 EST 2004 | fastek
You're correct Rob. If you go back any amount of time in this business like it sounds you have (and I know I have), it wasn't that long ago that companies like Philips and Seimens were way behind everyone else, (Fuji and Pana) when it came to buildin
Electronics Forum | Sat Dec 18 01:45:42 EST 2004 | fastek
Vinit- The name's Rick by the way. Probably best to stay in the new equipment business as your knowledge of used prices is a bit out of whack. First of all you could buy (2) CP4-1's new for what and FCM went for new. Second CP-4's are selling for ar
Electronics Forum | Sat Dec 18 02:16:23 EST 2004 | vinitverma
Hi Rick, First, in the last 6 months my customers have bought 5 FCM 1s and 3 FCM 2s, from the second hand market and NOT from Assembleon for approx. $130K for the FCM 1 and approx. @200K for the FCM 2. And one customer had bought the CP4 for $10K an
Electronics Forum | Wed Dec 15 04:00:11 EST 2004 | Base
Hi Serge, First of all: "i HAVE to buy"...? Sounds like someone is twisting your arm to buy a piece of iron you're not really enthousiastic about... But on a serious note: I've been comparing some machinery myself (also with Pana and Siemens) and I
Electronics Forum | Wed Dec 15 07:12:20 EST 2004 | vinitverma
Does Serge need bacons or turkeys?? None of them?? Then let him think about which machine suits his requirements! Throughput, flexibility, large board handling, output derating across board size variation and component size variation! Future proof -
Electronics Forum | Thu Dec 16 01:30:33 EST 2004 | vinitverma
I respect your statements about the FCM-I but only partially. Yes it was meant for ONLY HIGH VOLUMES, but in those cases, it has proved to be a masterpeice. Talk to those who've used the machines for 70000 hours or so. I have customers here that're u
Electronics Forum | Thu Dec 16 03:39:00 EST 2004 | Base
Hi Rob, I can understand why you'r so passionate about your beloved Fuji's and judging by what I'm reading you have every reason to be. But also know this, (Fastek already pointed it out, but I'd like to emphasize it): a company's reputation, be it
Electronics Forum | Thu Dec 16 12:40:48 EST 2004 | fastek
Vinit- I hate to burst your bubble regarding the FCM-1's but they will go down in history as probably the biggest platform failure in this business...based on re-sale value. For a million dollar machine to reach a level of re-sale of only $10K-$20K
Electronics Forum | Fri Dec 17 03:43:26 EST 2004 | vinitverma
Hi Fastek (what's your name?) The problem here is about the misconception about the FCM-I. As you rightly mentioned, the FCMs have gone through evolution in the last 10 years and the FCM 'I' too went through a lot of changes! And the FCM Is delivere
