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Can F4G connect with more than 8 CP7 or QP3?



Can F4G connect with more than 8 CP7 or QP3? | 8 June, 2002

Now I have a set of F4G system,4 CP742E and 8 QP341,how do I connect them?

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Can F4G connect with more than 8 CP7 or QP3? | 11 June, 2002

I can not find a F4G in Fuji�s equipment list. Siemens has a F4 ( flexible fine pitch machine ) and also a GII ( glue dispensing machine ), which both would make sense to add to your equipment list. Machines are �connected� together with their conveyor interface. You may connect the QP machines together dependent on how many feeders you will require for the job. Because they only place out of 8 mm feeders, you may want to add a machine in line, which can place the IC�s on your board. Actually all the machines you have, except the ( unknown ) F4G are high volume, low flexible machines. You configure these machines together to run thousands of boards of the same kind. If you require some flexibility, you may want to keep at least the chip shooters stand alone and tie possibly 4 each of the Philips clone machines together. Please also note that the machine performance does not add up with each machine you add in the line 40,000 + 40,000 = 80,000, but more likely 40,000 + 40,000 = 60,000.

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Mark J


Can F4G connect with more than 8 CP7 or QP3? | 11 June, 2002

Actually F4G is a programming environment similar to panatools, not a machine, it stands for "Fuji 4th Generation". The connection being questioned is to the communication network, and yes with the proper hardware you should be able to connect more than 8 machines to it. I'm not sure what the actual limit is, as I didn't deal much with it. But it should be at least 16. As for the QP-1, it can use feeders larger than 8mm and can place some larger components, but this requires the head being used to be reconfigured in the S/W to use 2 large nozzle instead of the usual 4 smaller nozzles.The QP-1 was designed as a high volume low mix machine but that is not the case with the QP-3 and CP7 series. The QP-3 is more akin to a stand alone QP-2 placing module (not requiring an ICM to operate) and bears no resemblance to the QP-1 in any way. The QP-3 will handle anything up to and including edge connectors given the correct feed set up and mechanical chuck arrangement. Both the QP-3 and CP7 were designed as flex machines. Theres no problem of flexibility using the equipment listed.

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