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used mydata equipment

mike at tekfab

#32308

used mydata equipment | 28 January, 2005

we are looking into purchasing refurbed Mydata equipment. Anything special we should know. We are a small contract manufacturer presently using Quad equipment that isn't able to do BGA or micro-BGA's

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Grant

#32328

used mydata equipment | 29 January, 2005

Hi,

MYDATA's are ok for lower volume, and they are very flexible. If you only have 1 or 2 trays of components and are on a tight budget, then you can even place the trays on the Y wagon behind the PCB so you can get away without the tray wagon.

Also, I really recommend you get the Line Scan Camera option if your doing smaller semiconductors and chip components on the HYDRA. The older HYDTA camera was problematic, and the newer line scan camera can scan everything, not just HYDRA components, and is much more accurate.

Also, if you are going to be placing passive chip components, then you really need to get the HYDRA camera, and get a bigger machine than a MY-9. This is because you need to repeat some component values on feeders to get optimization.

Your also going to want to get a machine with the Agillis feeders for 8 mm tapes, as they are much faster to change over. I have not been impressed with the Agillis for 12 and 16mm components, and we are selling our MYDATA and upgrading to other machines because of it.

Overall the MYDATA works well for lower volumes, and is very flexible. It can even pick components out of tapes stuck to the tray or Y wagons, but it's also crappie when volumes increase, and you get a lot of problems, and we need to visually inspect every board we load before the oven. But for an entry level machine, I would get another if it was starting up and needed something cost effective, and flexible.

You might want to check with MYDATA and if the machine you are looking at purchasing has the latest software etc. They have made good improvements in later software, and the HYDRA head is faster and more flexible. If it's older, you might need to get it upgraded, and it might cost a little.

Overall though, the MYDATA machines would make a good second hand purchase, as they are solid, and MYDATA seems very flexible and friendly, so they won't hit you too hard if your trying to bring up an older machine to latest software etc. MYDATA machines as still based on the same basic construction as they have used for a while, so even a fairly old machine should be able to be updated to the latest speeds and software.

I hope this helps!

Regards,

Grant

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#32561

used mydata equipment | 10 February, 2005

Grant, Thanks for the info. If you are getting rid of your my Data machines please let me know. We are looking at low volume capabilities and your equipment will fit that bill. Please call if your interested in selling the machine. Regards, Brad Burten 214-878-8618

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#32563

used mydata equipment | 10 February, 2005

First of all, whom are you getting it from ? Mydata, or a used equipment broker.

If you can tell me what machine type you are looking at, then I can tell you what to look for. (MY-series, or TP series) Most important things right off the bat: *Machine type *Software Version *Have the magazines been up-graded ? *Are all of the mount tools with it ?

Just so you know, the line scan is a nice tool but you do not need it to place BGA's. You can use the standard camera or the centering jaws to very accurately place BGA's. The only thing you will lose by centering this way is the ability to do 100% inspection on every ball.

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#32564

used mydata equipment | 10 February, 2005

The Mydata machine is a very good high mix low volume machine. If you buy from Mydata you will be better supported, than if you buy from a broker.

I would recommend you buy the newer My series machine. The TP machine was a good machine but the My machine is so much better. The linescan option is good but not a must in low volume. The older feeders work well. The newer aegilis feeders are expensive and really neccessary for the higher volume assemblies.

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mike at tekfab

#32566

used mydata equipment | 10 February, 2005

Thanks for all the information

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mike at tekfab

#32567

used mydata equipment | 10 February, 2005

Thanks your information is very helpful

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Grant

#32596

used mydata equipment | 11 February, 2005

Hi,

We are looking at selling the machine in mid April, May time frame. We are selling the machine, all feeders etc. But it's located in Australia, so a bit hard to ship to most locations. If your interested, please email grantpetty@blackmagic-design.com.

Regards,

Grant

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