Electronics Forum | Wed Dec 09 21:45:11 EST 1998 | Dave F
Graham: I agree. Very thorny. What is clean?? And how is that controlled?? Back 25 or so years ago, soldering was done with high solids rosin fluxes. The issue with cleanliness was ionic contamination. The US military and others set a fairly a
Electronics Forum | Wed Dec 09 12:48:50 EST 1998 | Mike Konrad
First, let me say that I am a manufacturer of batch cleaning systems. The following information is not intended to be a commercial for our cleaners, but rather a commentary about batch cleaners in general. Batch cleaners come in all sizes and confi
Electronics Forum | Tue Feb 19 08:49:34 EST 2008 | rgduval
Get the ionic specs from your flux manufacturer, and show it to the designer. No-clean flux/solder is supposed to be low to minimal in ionic contamination, which allow the whole no-clean thing. If he needs further proof, you can have the board io
Electronics Forum | Mon Oct 22 17:37:51 EDT 2001 | davef
I�m aware of no such standard. There may be something in Euroland [ie, IEC, etc.] TM-650 �Test Methods Manual� has procedures for measuring various types of contamination, such as: * 2.2.25 �Detection Of Ionizable Surface Contaminants� * 2.2.27 �Cl
Electronics Forum | Mon Nov 01 15:57:35 EST 2004 | davef
Both are equally efficient process control tools. Neither is particularly effective in testing ionic contamination. The best way to sell your customer on allowing you to do this is to show them that you understand the WHOLE process and are able
Electronics Forum | Mon Nov 02 22:04:30 EST 2015 | davef
An ionic contamination tester should meet industrial cleanliness specifications including MIL-STD-2000A, MIL-P-28809, J-STD-001 and Resistivity of Solvent Extract (ROSE) Test Method IPC-TM-650 2.3.25
Electronics Forum | Sun Feb 26 21:48:28 EST 2006 | Mike Konrad
Hi GS, Just a clarification� No-clean does NOT equal no ions. It equals less ions (at best). Automatic R.O.S.E (Resistivity Of Solvent Extract) testers are commonly used to detect ionic contamination from no-clean applications. Your comment rega
Electronics Forum | Wed Jun 27 21:17:37 EDT 2001 | davef
;-) Earth to Genny: Hellooooow!!! No one knows the answer. We�re guessing that it might not be a problem, but we don�t know!!! We are not holding-out to drill you. We�d tell you, if we knew, honest. ;-) The people that are goofy enough to do
Electronics Forum | Thu Oct 05 16:04:00 EDT 2006 | GS
I am not expert, just my comment, the total ionic contamination allowed after SMT, by using No Clean process, theoretically it should be close to Zero. Any way the Standard IPC-JSTD-001 allows 1,56 ugr NaCl/cm2 for the final Printed Board assembled.
Electronics Forum | Tue Dec 10 18:30:15 EST 2002 | MikeF
From personal experience, if the PWB vendor is cutting costs and doing their final rinse with tap water instead of DI you will get ionic contaminants left on the board. You might consider having CSL, or one of the other independent labs mentioned e
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