Printed Circuit Board Assembly & PCB Design SMT Electronics Assembly Manufacturing Forum

Printed Circuit Board Assembly & PCB Design Forum

SMT electronics assembly manufacturing forum.


extra zeros very confusing....

#22081

extra zeros very confusing.... | 22 October, 2002

Brian,

Since the change, I have seen numerous instances of extra zeros being added to numeric values, typically those of 3 (original) characters or more. Case in point, a contribution by our friend Mr. Fish that I have cut and pasted:

"The steadfast rule of thumb is: In order to get reliable reflow, you need to be at or higher than [liquidus + 200C] for about 5 to 10 seconds, rather than those old "60 seconds above 1830C" guideline. This provides for setting your peak based on the actual alloy you have selected that is the mixture of the component finish, solder, and solderability protection."

Somebody let me know if they don't see "liquidus + 200C" and "60 seconds above 1830C" in the above paragraph, because that's what I see and I've been seeing the same kind of stuff since the conversion. I hope it's not just me.....

Thanks.

reply »

#22082

extra zeros very confusing.... | 22 October, 2002

Steve,

Did you skip your Wheaties for breakfast today?

reply »

#22085

extra zeros very confusing.... | 22 October, 2002

Dave, are you telling me that yer tryin' to pawn that off as a superscript "degree" symbol??? Wass' wrong with 183C, fer criminy's sake? (fighting urge for more defensive ranting)

I'd swear a couple of old posts changed the way they displayed after the format change. 'K, maybe it was the Pyramid Hef. I had last night. Gotta get back to my RH roots. :P

Sorry Brian. [head down, hands in pockets, aimlessly kicking dust]

reply »

Brian Doyle

#22089

extra zeros very confusing.... | 22 October, 2002

man, I've gotta learn to read the whole thread before trying to figure out a problem. I literally stared at your post for a good 5 minutes.

reply »

#22091

extra zeros very confusing.... | 22 October, 2002

Steve,

Here's the code: * Press "Num Lock"; Hold down "Alt", while typing 0176 =>� * Press "Num Lock"; Hold down "Alt", while typing 0111 =>o * Press "Num Lock"; Hold down "Alt", while typing 079 =>O

See they're all different sizes. Neat, eh? ;-P

reply »

#22092

extra zeros very confusing.... | 22 October, 2002

Brian

You can't figure it out because yer still on yer medication and Steve is not.

reply »

genny

#22105

extra zeros very confusing.... | 23 October, 2002

Some of the posts lately seem to have little open rectangles where the punctuation marks would be. I'm just wondering whether that is what Steve was talking about. They can look a bit like zeros, albeit squared off..

It makes it hard to read.

reply »

#22106

extra zeros very confusing.... | 23 October, 2002

Yeah, but the one's you're typing aren't displayed that way to me, anyway. They're all 00000000000000000000000000's.

Hmmmm, let's see what happens when I post this:

° o

O

Those that I just typed all show up the way you apparently expect them to, but your 0176 example is still just displayed as a standard 0 for me. The other two appear to be subscript zero and cap. O to me.......

reply »

#22107

extra zeros very confusing.... | 23 October, 2002

Interesting...those all showed up as Dave would expect, and I'm surprised. Why don't Dave's get displayed right for me?

reply »

Brian Doyle

#22118

extra zeros very confusing.... | 23 October, 2002

I wonder if its a browser thing.

What brand and version of browser do you use?

reply »

#22121

extra zeros very confusing.... | 23 October, 2002

It's ie 5.5, and my own attempts at the symbols look fine as I typed them as well as when I view them now. It's only Dave's that are coming up wrong. Pretty weird.

reply »

Brian Doyle

#22127

extra zeros very confusing.... | 24 October, 2002

That's really odd...

reply »

genny

#22130

extra zeros very confusing.... | 24 October, 2002

I noticed a message in the reflow oven chain lubrication thread that talked about 2460C. I assume this is the same problem, and that it was really intended to be 246degC. It isn't an overall problem, only a few postings seem affected. Only a few posts have the rectangles instead of punctuation, and Steve's attempt at alternate characters shows up fine for me. Hmmmmm.

reply »


RDR

#22135

extra zeros very confusing.... | 24 October, 2002

Well I guess this would explain why since reading these posts that when I put a board into the oven it never comes out and there is a funny smell! It was difficult however to get the temp up to 2460 C for 200 seconds.

I have never had this extra zero thing by the way

reply »

dragonslayr

#22137

extra zeros very confusing.... | 24 October, 2002

Hey gang- was just wondering - how do I get them extra zero's added onto my paycheck?

DaveF - can you reference the appropriate ASCII code for me? (I'll put a little something extra in your Halloween goodie bag if it works!!)

reply »

Brian Doyle

#22142

extra zeros very confusing.... | 24 October, 2002

Here let me try this out. There are some special characters that have certain html codes. Quotes are an example, same with trademark references...and degree symbols.

This should be a degree symbol: °

so I could write: 99.9°

Now, to use this you type: ° exactly like that.

ex: 99.9°

This also looks like a degree symbol (although its not one):

º

99.9º

That's this: º

ex: 99.9º

As to why I made if appear as a degree symbol up there and in its raw form below...well I'm magic.

So, I believe you can now add those extra zero's to my paycheck (at the end please not the front).

reply »

One stop service for all SMT and PCB needs

IPC Training & Certification - Blackfox