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Touch or no touch-up

brown

#32576

Touch or no touch-up | 11 February, 2005

OK I am counting someone knowing this. True or False, if my touch-up operators touch-up the smt solder joints too many times will this make the joint weaker? if yes why? and what happens to my intermetalic layer?

I have insisted if it looks good don't touch it, they insist its better to touch-up to be on the safe side. brown.brooks@sanmina-sci.com

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Bob

#32581

Touch or no touch-up | 11 February, 2005

Your question is very scary coming from Sanmina !

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#32583

Touch or no touch-up | 11 February, 2005

It sounds like you already know the answer.

Hand soldering is much more stressful to a board than mass soldering, because: * It is more localized and there is no preheat. * It is more difficult to control. [Different connections require different heat times, but these estimates of time are difficult to judge [a poor estimate requires retouching]. And operators try too keep their iron as hot as possible to increase their throughput. Hot iron use puts a higher thermal shock on via and pad adhesion.] * And on and on ...

This thermal shock, no preheat is a problem because the different materials the comprise the board [eg, epoxy, copper, glass fiber, etc] have different rates of expansion when heated. Remember that eperiment that your teacher did in high science class when he heated a bimetalic strip and it bent? That's exactly what's happening to the materials in your board.

The intermetalic layer grows as a function of time and temperature above zero degree Kelvin.

Finally, going back to your original point "I have insisted if it looks good don't touch it." That's the real issue. You and your operators have different standards. [Can you imagine how much touch-up your going to have when you go to leadfree?]

Continuing, many years ago, we were touching virtually every board. Our operators were "painting" solder over blow holes that were caused by out-gassing of moisture in the board through the barrel of through holes. There was nothing good going on there. So, we worked with our suppliers to inprove in-bound materials and improved the storage and work environments. Our operators were doing the best with what they had. There was a problem that the operators saw, but others needed to see in order to improve the situation.

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Rob

#32584

Touch or no touch-up | 11 February, 2005

Depends what the joint is on, and how historically it has performed - ie. is it a part that won't wick on the wave, or near a ground plane that never forms properly.

It may be that they know something you don't about the board.

However any info such as this should be in the build pack.

Good luck.

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#32588

Touch or no touch-up | 11 February, 2005

"Finally, going back to your original point "I have insisted if it looks good don't touch it." That's the real issue. You and your operators have different standards. [Can you imagine how much touch-up your going to have when you go to leadfree?]"

Dave, could it be they are already leadfree and without standarts?

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#32589

Touch or no touch-up | 11 February, 2005

A touched-up solder joint is never as reliable as one soldered correctly by machine. Touching up adds more heat thereby increasing the thickness of the intermetalic bond. Our goal is to have the thinest intermetalic bond in our solder joints. The intermetalic is not very conductive and will thicken over time (months and years) in ambient conditions. That is the science of it.

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Brian W.

#32593

Touch or no touch-up | 11 February, 2005

Don't forget the possibility of causing component damage in addition to board damage. Reworking a ceramic capacitor with a hot iron can cause microcracks in teh capacitor. You probably won't find those until much later in the process, maybe even in the unit. I worked fofr a company that built boards for NASA. NO touch-up was allowed at all. Touch up degrades the reliability of the board for all the reasons stated above.

Brian

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