Re: I looking for a beta site for a new drying process

We have developed a new process for removing moisture from surface mount devices. We have one site where PCB laminate drying has been reduced to 1.5 hours. A standard oven took 4 hours to do the job. I am looking for a firm who does large scale board drying to beta site the TVP process application. Anybody getting tired of waiting for the stuff to dry?

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| We have developed a new process for removing moisture from surface mount devices. We have one site where PCB laminate drying has been reduced to 1.5 hours. A standard oven took 4 hours to do the job. I am looking for a firm who does large scale board drying to beta site the TVP process application. Anybody getting tired of waiting for the stuff to dry? |

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| | We have developed a new process for removing moisture from surface mount devices. We have one site where PCB laminate drying has been reduced to 1.5 hours. A standard oven took 4 hours to do the job. I am looking for a firm who does large scale board drying to beta site the TVP process application. Anybody getting tired of waiting for the stuff to dry? | | | | Stu: How doe this work with peelable solder masks? Dave F

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| | | We have developed a new process for removing moisture from surface mount devices. We have one site where PCB laminate drying has been reduced to 1.5 hours. A standard oven took 4 hours to do the job. I am looking for a firm who does large scale board drying to beta site the TVP process application. Anybody getting tired of waiting for the stuff to dry? | | | | | | | | Stu: How doe this work with peelable solder masks? Dave F | I'll second that about solder masks especially those glycerine/water based and water washable. Contact Ron Johnson at H-P Spokane SMTC. He's been looking to DRY his very large solder mask output, but not over do it in, in a much shorter period.

Earl Moon

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| We have developed a new process for removing moisture from surface mount devices. We have one site where PCB laminate drying has been reduced to 1.5 hours. A standard oven took 4 hours to do the job. I am looking for a firm who does large scale board drying to beta site the TVP process application. Anybody getting tired of waiting for the stuff to dry? |

Stu

What is the principle? If we knew how it worked, we could judge better.

Brian

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| | | | We have developed a new process for removing moisture from surface mount devices. We have one site where PCB laminate drying has been reduced to 1.5 hours. A standard oven took 4 hours to do the job. I am looking for a firm who does large scale board drying to beta site the TVP process application. Anybody getting tired of waiting for the stuff to dry? | | | | | | | | | | | | Stu: How doe this work with peelable solder masks? Dave F | | | I'll second that about solder masks especially those glycerine/water based and water washable. Contact Ron Johnson at H-P Spokane SMTC. He's been looking to DRY his very large solder mask output, but not over do it in, in a much shorter period. | | Earl Moon | I have some of your answers but not near what I would like to have. We originally developed the process to dry thin, moisture sensitive surface-mounted IC packages. Sugsequently, ABPAC proved that it was equally effective in drying BT laminates used in PBGA assemblies. A West Coast military contractor is using TVP to dry some military PCB's but is super secretive about the product, keeping us in the dark. He does report that he was able to reduce his 4 hour cycle to 1.5 hours with the TVP process. The lack of answers to questions like solder masks is the reason that we are looking for a "technical partner." There is one "bright light". The process has been able to beat standard bake-out cycle times by 50% or better in all applications. I would be more than happy to provide the "wheres and whyfores" on the process via email to one and all parties. My email address is sleech@ix.netcom.com

Stu Leech (602) 843-8369

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| | | | | We have developed a new process for removing moisture from surface mount devices. We have one site where PCB laminate drying has been reduced to 1.5 hours. A standard oven took 4 hours to do the job. I am looking for a firm who does large scale board drying to beta site the TVP process application. Anybody getting tired of waiting for the stuff to dry? | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Stu: How doe this work with peelable solder masks? Dave F | | | | | I'll second that about solder masks especially those glycerine/water based and water washable. Contact Ron Johnson at H-P Spokane SMTC. He's been looking to DRY his very large solder mask output, but not over do it in, in a much shorter period. | | | | Earl Moon | | | I have some of your answers but not near what I would like to have. We originally developed the process to dry thin, moisture sensitive surface-mounted IC packages. Sugsequently, ABPAC proved that it was equally effective in drying BT laminates used in PBGA assemblies. A West Coast military contractor is using TVP to dry some military PCB's but is super secretive about the product, keeping us in the dark. He does report that he was able to reduce his 4 hour cycle to 1.5 hours with the TVP process. The lack of answers to questions like solder masks is the reason that we are looking for a "technical partner." There is one "bright light". The process has been able to beat standard bake-out cycle times by 50% or better in all applications. I would be more than happy to provide the "wheres and whyfores" on the process via email to one and all parties. My email address is sleech@ix.netcom.com | | Stu Leech | (602) 843-8369 | Stu I don't quite understand why you are being so secretive about your TVP product/process. Enough information for us to figure out what it is was posted recently in the smtnet industry resources directory for Altos Engineering. I.E.Thermal Vacuum Processing.

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| | | | | | We have developed a new process for removing moisture from surface mount devices. We have one site where PCB laminate drying has been reduced to 1.5 hours. A standard oven took 4 hours to do the job. I am looking for a firm who does large scale board drying to beta site the TVP process application. Anybody getting tired of waiting for the stuff to dry? | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Stu: How doe this work with peelable solder masks? Dave F | | | | | | | I'll second that about solder masks especially those glycerine/water based and water washable. Contact Ron Johnson at H-P Spokane SMTC. He's been looking to DRY his very large solder mask output, but not over do it in, in a much shorter period. | | | | | | Earl Moon | | | | | I have some of your answers but not near what I would like to have. We originally developed the process to dry thin, moisture sensitive surface-mounted IC packages. Sugsequently, ABPAC proved that it was equally effective in drying BT laminates used in PBGA assemblies. A West Coast military contractor is using TVP to dry some military PCB's but is super secretive about the product, keeping us in the dark. He does report that he was able to reduce his 4 hour cycle to 1.5 hours with the TVP process. The lack of answers to questions like solder masks is the reason that we are looking for a "technical partner." There is one "bright light". The process has been able to beat standard bake-out cycle times by 50% or better in all applications. I would be more than happy to provide the "wheres and whyfores" on the process via email to one and all parties. My email address is sleech@ix.netcom.com | | | | Stu Leech | | (602) 843-8369 | | | Stu | I don't quite understand why you are being so secretive about your TVP product/process. Enough information for us to figure out what it is was posted recently in the smtnet industry resources directory for Altos Engineering. I.E.Thermal Vacuum Processing. | |John:

Sure didn't mean to be the least bit secretaive about TVP. I didn't think the forum would be happy with a posting of all the details in this format. You will have to forgive me, I'm a bit of a "newbie" to bulletin boards. I would be more than happy to post the process details for thermal vacuum processing anywhere at any time. Just need a little guidance on how to get the inormation out.

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| | | | | | | We have developed a new process for removing moisture from surface mount devices. We have one site where PCB laminate drying has been reduced to 1.5 hours. A standard oven took 4 hours to do the job. I am looking for a firm who does large scale board drying to beta site the TVP process application. Anybody getting tired of waiting for the stuff to dry? | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Stu: How doe this work with peelable solder masks? Dave F | | | | | | | | | I'll second that about solder masks especially those glycerine/water based and water washable. Contact Ron Johnson at H-P Spokane SMTC. He's been looking to DRY his very large solder mask output, but not over do it in, in a much shorter period. | | | | | | | | Earl Moon | | | | | | | I have some of your answers but not near what I would like to have. We originally developed the process to dry thin, moisture sensitive surface-mounted IC packages. Sugsequently, ABPAC proved that it was equally effective in drying BT laminates used in PBGA assemblies. A West Coast military contractor is using TVP to dry some military PCB's but is super secretive about the product, keeping us in the dark. He does report that he was able to reduce his 4 hour cycle to 1.5 hours with the TVP process. The lack of answers to questions like solder masks is the reason that we are looking for a "technical partner." There is one "bright light". The process has been able to beat standard bake-out cycle times by 50% or better in all applications. I would be more than happy to provide the "wheres and whyfores" on the process via email to one and all parties. My email address is sleech@ix.netcom.com | | | | | | Stu Leech | | | (602) 843-8369 | | | | | Stu | | I don't quite understand why you are being so secretive about your TVP product/process. Enough information for us to figure out what it is was posted recently in the smtnet industry resources directory for Altos Engineering. I.E.Thermal Vacuum Processing. | | | |John: | | Sure didn't mean to be the least bit secretaive about TVP. I didn't think the forum would be happy with a posting of all the details in this format. You will have to forgive me, I'm a bit of a "newbie" to bulletin boards. I would be more than happy to post the process details for thermal vacuum processing anywhere at any time. Just need a little guidance on how to get the inormation out. | | I have submitted a short paper to SMT explaining the new TVP drying process, Hopefully, it will be posted here and be available for those who would like to learn about a way to reduce a drying bake-out process by half.

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