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Siemens HS50 and F5 and S25

Chris Jackson


Siemens HS50 and F5 and S25 | 27 November, 2000

I am evaluating several pieces of Siemens equipment and would like to get some input from industry users. I am seeing that Siemens is able to meet cycle time estimates and thus throughput. I am concerned about the robustness?? Any input is welcome. Thanks!!! I can see some advantage, but would like real life input...


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Re: Siemens HS50 and F5 and S25 | 27 November, 2000

When the are up and running they are hard to beat, but when they go down they go down hard. Keep field service close. Don't get me wrong they're great machines and the company I used to work for had some of the first machines available. I come from a Fuji background and I guess I am still partial to them. The company I work for now has HS50 chip shooters along side QP3 fine placement. We have had pretty good luck so far� Just trying to be honest

Good luck on your tuff decisions.

Sincerely, Chris

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Re: Siemens HS50 and F5 and S25 | 28 November, 2000

Chris- The machines you identified are stable products and have been around for over two years now and most bugs have been worked out. The F5 IC head has not changed much since its introduction over 5 years ago. Remember these machine like to run, run and run.If the machines are not going to be used for 6 hours or more I would put them into a dry run mode and let them work.These machines are a great representation of German engineering.Robustness would not be my concern. I have indepth knowledge on Siemens products if you would like more info contatct me via email.

Best Regards Cal

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Re: Siemens HS50 and F5 and S25 | 6 December, 2000

Chris, Have you considered Fuji? The robustness of Fuji is proven. I have recently done floor space analysis and cost per placement/sqr foot studies. I have also performed ROI studies on these machines. The new CP7 machine from Fuji outperforms the HS50 with a much lower cost per placement. My study also included the MSR from Pana, the HSPR from UIC, and the FCM from Philips. The CP7 was the best in cost per placement/sqr foot and ROI.

Good luck, Brad

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