Opinions about AOI-machines

If there is people who has experience about those machines would be helpful if you can say if you have even liked or not that machine you have used!

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I've only used Koh Young and PARMI from that list. I'd steer clear of PARMI and my top pick would be Koh Young (based on technology, software, and support).

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Hi,

It's not on your list, but we use an SPI and an AOI from SAKI. Very simple software interface and the same structure on all machines.

As soon as the library is set up, a program can be created in a maximum of 20 minutes. The program creation goes offline and therefore does not block the line. Depending on the data format used (Gerber, ODB++, OPM, etc.), program creation can be even faster.

Other software solutions can also be integrated at a later date, for example to store and analyze data for traceability (QD Suite).

The cycle time is also amazing.

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Out of the list you have given, it would be koh young all day long...

No cyber optics?

It also depends on what your making of course.

Some offer benefits others do not etc..

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If I remember correctly (this is going back to 2016-2017), the Yamaha AOI can share the P&P component library, from P-Tools. And, it will share error data with the Yamaha P&P and printer. And, it was a pretty good machine, even by itself. Koh Young and Mirtec are also very good options.

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We have been using SAKI AOI for more than ten years, the software and check algorithms should be must better. The machine themselves(hardware)are very good. There were no serious problem.

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When we were selecting our AOI I made 3 test boards. 2 of them were "golden boards". These 2 had different shades of green solder mask as I had been told this could cause some issues. I did not encounter that during our selection. The 3rd board had known defects which were recorded prior to the evaluation. Then for each AOI system we set up tests. I handed the operator one golden board and the data that we usually have for an assembly (gerbers, BOM, pick and place file). They were timed to create the program. We ran the 2 golden boards several times until they were satisfied with the performance of the machine. Then we ran the defect board and graded them on how many defects they found. This gave us data to make the selection instead of marketing hype and others opinions.

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In general, how do you guys handle Component Text from different Vendors - multiple Alternates for the same comp. code? Do you guys use the Wrong Text inspection for everything or only specific components. Curious since that is one of our top false calls

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Stay away for Koh young, There software is a disaster, the service engineers will tell you that themselves,

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I have heard great things about Viscom. I have seen demos and been thoroughly impressed but do not have any personal experience operating one. I also heard great things about Omron, but they are super expensive I've gathered. A closed loop system by the same vendor may be hard to beat!

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Hello, I have been working with Marantz brand AOI machines for over 20 years, they are reliable, the software is easy to work with, there is little maintenance, I recommend that you also do some research on this machine.

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Yes, as many has mentioned before there are many option out there to choose based on your requirements and budget. We are also small company in Seattle for PCBA. Not sure if you have already bought the machine or not but we have upgraded our SMT line recently so we have the Mirtec AOI benchtop machine in fully working condition. Not trying to be a salesman here but wanted to help a small company in setting up a business. Please let me know if you're interested. We can help you set up and teach the machine too if you need.

Contact me on kghadiya@aaloktronix.com if need further info or any help.

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Hello friend

Since so many brands and models can be listed, some of the world's most well-known inspection equipment have a certain share of the market. It means you have done some understanding.

I have listed some of our experiences for your reference, hoping to help you. 1. Consider the hard core strength of your factory. If you use a Yamaha production line, then you should focus your AOI on YAMAHA AOI, because this will provide a very beautiful line for your production line, and you will also win more and better orders for this. Customers will take into account the manufacturer's production line specifications and value when inspecting the factory. So when your entire production is of the same brand, it is very complete and beautiful, and more importantly, it is easy to manage. I believe you can understand what I mean.

2. You mentioned that you are producing in high mix and small batches, so the conversion rate is relatively high. You can prefer Kouyoung. Why? Because of Kouyong Zenith2 AOI, it is very flexible, easy to operate and easy to program. When your production line uses Kouyong Zenith2, your production line can be instantly upgraded to a high-level production line.

3. If you consider the budget, then you are relatively inclined to Mirtec AOI. The sales share of Mirtec AOI has been gradually increasing in recent years, which shows that this machine still has its uniqueness. Wait, these are also some reference data we provide you.

If you want to know more, including some price or technical discussions, we will be happy to provide it to you. I've put our engineer's email below. If you wish, you can write to him and I will notify him: quinnsmt@gmail.com

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